In the last chapter, we learned the mystery that Jesus became human, while still existing in heaven at the same time. While growing up as human, He was subject to massive Satanic attack, His life and struggles a representation of the issues of the spirit war between God and Satan. As angels read Christ's mind and assisted him against greater Satanic attack, the details about God's mysterious dealings with man and fallen angels became apparent to Christ, as all elect also eventually come to understand. All humans are literally incarnations of some fallen angels, except Christ who was the only angel to incarnate from the preexistant light forces, and all angels knew this much detail before Christ, but God kept it a mystery how exactly Christ would overcome and become sinless and perfect. All angels were continually shocked to learn new things about God's way of thinking, as Christ matured and struggled with the issues of life and the heart while angels read His mind and assisted sometimes as they were able. The human Messiah was actually their Spirit Lord who existed in the spiritual heavens at the same time the physical Christ existed as flesh and blood on the earth. "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven (John 3:13)." Again, as said in previous chapter, Jesus here is said to come down from heaven and yet still was in heaven at the same time, a mystery how Christ, as God, was in heaven and yet on the earth at the same time. Christ demonstrated His love for His enemies by suffering and dying for them and after His resurrection, the Holy Spirit came to believers at Pentecost, and God converts and transforms more elect now with the mission to preach it as He wills, as He reveals these mysteries personally and prepares them to be the Bride of Christ, enemies turned passionate lovers who will work together during millennium and lake of fire ages to save all sentient creation.
After the Holy Spirit came at Pentecost, converted humans began to enter the same massive spiritual warfare that Christ had experienced as human, as all elect eventually always experience. With time, the apostles and early church leaders came to understand the issues of the spirit war between God and Satan. Revelation is progressive and takes time to assimilate as we are able to bear it. God gives us as much as we can handle and when we need it. It took years for the early church to fully accept Gentiles could be saved and physical circumcision was not necessary for salvation. In time, they came to understand God's plan included not only salvation of all mankind (fleshly devils) but also those very spiritual devils who were attacking them in the spirit. They came to realize they also had to love and forgive not only their physical enemies but spiritual ones as well, as Christ did. This love for the devil is expressed by engaging in spiritual warfare with him and learning to overcome, as only if the elect overcome will we be able to assist Christ to save all in the lake of fire age. There is still apparent danger in this ongoing spirit war, because God considers husband (Christ) and wife (elect) as one flesh (Mark 10:8), so being one, God considers the elect as if they are Christ Himself, and if either Christ or His Bride (the elect) fail in their mission, God will concede the contest, give Satan the power to be God and all will be very bad indeed then (think literal hellfire, which is Satan's idea and he would love to implement if he were God...if you still fear literal fire forever, know it can only be if Satan defeats God, which is impossible if you are destined to be elect, as all elect eventually fully develop strong faith and understanding of all Christ accomplished at the cross). There is no real danger God will lose, but from a human point of view, it feels that way sometimes. That is why life is challenging and difficult for us all, but especially for the elect, around whom the fate of all existence rests. The only way to overcome this fear is like Jesus did in the preexistence, as He evolved into God and left fear behind. The more you become love, the less control the devil has over you with fear of death. "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil (Hebrews 2:14)." The devil holds the fear of death and the unknowns of God's judgments after death, as the devil subconsciously attacks us with taunts that we are devils (true) and going to burn in literal hellfire for all eternity (not true). God cannot fail, and neither can His elect, but to give incentive for devil to try hard, God let's him think so. We must try hard too, for love's sake, not fear. Faith positions are easy to say, but hard to live. You think you are elect? Satan will say. You think you can't fail? Look at that wrong thought you just thought, said, or thing you did! Satan loves to accuse. Dealing with Satan is not easy, but what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. I know many spiritual things, but still must walk by faith and negative emotions are something we all must learn to deal with. It is not always easy for me either, but I know God cannot fail to save all, even my evil accuser will be changed one day. Only if the elect fail, will we all burn in literal fire forever, as then God will keep his bargain and let Satan become God, who will certainly burn us in literal fire forever. But the elect learn to hear the voice of Christ, as He said my sheep hear my voice and follow me (John 10:27). You cannot fail if you simply strive to keep your heart right and don't give up when you inevitably fall every day. You will learn your mission from Christ personally and complete it. Whether you are elect or not is between you and God. Even the elect have some doubts at times due to supernatural demonic attack, but most of the time now I don't doubt it at all. Technically, no human can know for 100% sure they are elect until physical death, as the criteria is only finalized at death, because those who overcome are called, chosen, and faithful (Revelation 17:14). Even Judas attained to being called and chosen, but Christ said, "have I not chosen you 12 yet one of you is a devil," referring to Judas who fell away. The true elect eventually learn to be faithful to hear and obey the voice of Christ, and distinguish it from Satan and reject Satan.
"Christians" who reject the things I write here despite all the scripture I use to prove it, show they cannot discern the spiritual voice of Christ, who will personally and supernaturally confirm the things I write if you are destined to be elect. I have strong faith I will be faithful until physical death, but nonetheless I also have a knowing in my heart all is fine and God cannot fail ultimately, as even if I end up in the lake of fire after physical death, I will still be saved in the end. That is my fallback position under intense supernatural demonic attack of my elect status, but these days I rarely have to use it. And even the odd time I do, shortly after the devil leaves the confidence of the true elect comes upon me again. I may have some knowledge, but compared to God, I still know nothing, and I no longer get puffed with pride of my knowledge. 1 Corinthians 8:1 says, "But knowledge puffs up while love builds up." But God has His ways of keeping us humble, and for me, it is comparing myself to Christ as human, for then my so-called knowledge seems like nothing. Our forgiveness for the devil is expressed as a faith position, knowing that once the devil is saved and comes out of the lake of fire, full restoration of right relationships with all creation will finally be fulfilled. Until then, in your war with the devil, you will feel hatred towards him, which is good, as it inspires you to engage in the spiritual war. Forgiveness is a choice, but right relationship can only happen with the devil once he is changed. Even God said Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated (Romans 9:13). We now know God truly loves all, but Jacob is a type of first resurrection elect who God seemingly loves more than Esau, a type of those who go to the lake of fire after physical death because they do not appreciate the first resurrection birthright promise, selling it casually to Jacob for a bowl of soup. Jacob tricked and cheated Esau to be in the first resurrection, as all Rachel elect like Jacob desire their spiritual husband Christ so much they use and abuse family (second resurrectioners are still family) to obtain Him, bad attitude in some ways but also impressive in its own way, and also explains why those who know they are first resurrection Jacobs are hated so much by second resurrection destined Esaus, which most people are. Rachel elect, aka Jacob elect expresses same concept, like me can often "sense" the hate directed towards us when around other people, no religious words even need be said, and people mostly do not understand why they feel this way. Jacob and Esau were estranged for many years because of this cheat, but eventually reconciled, showing the ultimate reconciliation into one fold in the end, once second resurrectioners come out of the lake of fire. "And saviours (first resurrection 'Jacobs' are saviors of all) shall come up on mount Zion (means come up in first resurrection) to judge the mount of Esau;(we shall judge second resurrection 'Esaus' to save them) and the kingdom shall be the LORD'S (means the universal salvation kingdom shall be the Lord's sovereign doing)." (Obadiah 1:21) God seemingly loves Esau less, likened unto hatred compared to His love for Jacob, but we live our lives as parable characters of spiritual things, and God is mainly teaching and making points, such as how God supernaturally reveals the mystery of iniquity to first resurrectioners and convicts them that those who are forgiven much (for being bigger evil devils than most from preexistence, even though we have no direct memories) will eventually love God back much (Luke 7:47). This is why Rachel elect eventually do some crazy outward obedience things, though it counts nothing towards their salvation or even first resurrection election. We first resurrection destined Jacob elect are just as bad as anybody, and even worse from preexistence, who God saves first to make some teaching points about His love. "For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore you sons of Jacob are not consumed (Malachi 3:6)." Sons of Jacob, children of Jacob in other words, is another way of saying those born of Jacob's type of mind, like me, who are destined for first resurrection, are just as bad as anybody, worse even from preexistence, but are not consumed because the sovereign Lord changes NOT His determination to save the comparatively worse sons of Jacob first to make some teaching points, and eventually everybody else gets saved in the lake of fire. The fire now or after physical death is the same fire,(same purpose though manifests differently) and God's love now or after death is the same too. God just makes this illusion too so those on God's side learn to deal with jealousy of others for apparently being loved more, and God's enemies learn what it feels like to be hated by their Creator, which helps inspire change. So certainly love the spiritual devils (demons) far less than the fleshly devils (humans) you deal with everyday, but remember your obligation to love all, as God does. To hold positive and negative emotions in balance simultaneously is the height of spiritual warfare. You love and hate at the same time, always forgiving others, even the devil, in your heart, even if you continue to pretend to act angry or hold a grudge, as you feel may help others. But you cannot trick evil spirits like you can trick humans, for evil spirits can read your mind, so sincerely ask God for help to love the devil (fight him daily) and forgive the devil, knowing he will be your fast friend one day. But I digress. Let me continue. There are certain key concepts that the true elect come to realize before physical death, as they mature spiritually and learn what it means to overcome the world, the flesh, and the devil.
These key concepts to understand more God's plan include salvation of a small number of human devils first, called the elect, the Bride of Christ, to rule and reign with Him in the first resurrection as spirit beings during the millennium of Christ's literal kingdom on earth, and the second resurrection at the great white throne judgment to save the rest of creation in the lake of fire. To accomplish this, symbolic fire is used to purge and purify the minds of all those who go through the fire, either in this life of flesh or later as spirit. To accomplish this task, the elect come to understand God does so through the illusion of free will, a fiery trial in itself and strong spiritual meat that only the elect can accept, as the elect come to understand God is totally sovereign over all good and evil and uses His sovereignty to forcefully save all creation through painful symbolic spiritual fire.
I will now expound some of my favorite scriptures to "prove" these concepts, though I know many will disagree and counter my scriptures with other scriptures and explanations. That fact testifies that a very real devil and demons still torment and attack (in itself a manifestation of fire) the physical elect on this earth, and deceive and take captive all humanity, even the elect for a time, as is necessary in preparation for further service with the King, Christ Jesus, as He worked through the same issues of life and the heart. It hurts our ego and pride to admit who we are (devils) and are helpless to save ourselves and have nothing to bring to the table or contribute to our own salvation, not even having a hint of free will to even choose Christ. Father is the only Sovereign in the universe with true free will and free choice, which He exercises in benefit to salvation of all, and it hurts us deeply to realize God is in complete control of all the suffering and trials we face in life, currently through evil spirits who are under His Sovereign control, such as when the Lord sent an evil spirit to trouble King Saul. 1 Samuel 16:14 says, "The Spirit of the LORD had departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD tormented him." We all have a King Saul in us from birth, until King David (Christ) ascends to the throne of our hearts. We are troubled by evil spirits all our lives, but sort of get used to it and think it's normal...it is NOT, but the elect come to understand spiritual realities more deeply than most and learn to walk in the Spirit. But it still hurts and humbles us to know all evil spirits torment us, not of their own free will, but only as the Lord allows and directs as He deems correct according to His strange love..."that he may do his work, his strange work; and bring to pass his act, his strange act (Isaiah 28:21)."
I will first attempt to prove universal salvation of all mankind with a few of my favorite scriptures, and logically it follows that spirits like Satan and demons can also be saved the same way as humans. I follow the scriptural admonition to prove something true on two or three witnesses (2 Corinthians 13:1) so I always have at least 2 or 3 scriptures to prove my doctrinal position. Of course, spiritual warfare is all about countering my truth with other scriptures and spiritual concepts but a key understanding is there can be no contradictions in God's Word. I do not attempt to counter every possible argument against my position but simply assert that my scriptures are true too. It is either all true or none of it is true. There is always a way to harmonize all scripture and spiritual concepts, and I challenge my reader to ask God by His Spirit to show you what is true and how to do this, for like all, I prefer to simply make the argument for my case and leave it to the devil within you (full of ego and pride) to get offended at my words and try to prove me wrong.
My favorite verse for universal salvation of all mankind is 1 Corinthians 15:22, "For as in Adam all die, so in Christ shall all be made alive." This verse is saying the same all that die because of Adam are the same all that shall be made alive (given eternal life) but you must be in Christ to receive this life. This verse is a prophecy of the future, when one day all will be in Christ and be made fully alive (have eternal life). Right now, obviously most die without being in Christ, that is why God has a second resurrection to redemptive judgment in the lake of fire, where they will be forcefully saved against their will. Yes, that is right, God must use force to save all, and this is one of the major fiery trials one must come to terms with and see it as love. Yes, forced salvation feels like a type of rape, but if God has to rape His children to save them, that is passionate love for your good, not evil. You think too much like the devil if you get offended at this fact. The other major fiery trial to overcome is to realize you have no free will, merely the illusion of free will, for God is sovereign and if it were any other way, God could not save all, as we would all rather die and burn in literal fire forever than serve a God who spiritually violates us for our own good to save us. More on free will/God's sovereignty later. Look at it logically, Adam eats of the forbidden fruit and suffering and death is forced on us all because of what Adam did. Doesn't seem too fair right? I didn't ask to be born and suffer and die for what Adam did. But Christians still say God is good because He respects our free will to choose to rebel and go to hell, so the theory goes. Now Christ is called the last Adam and undoes all that the first Adam did. "And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam (Christ) was made a quickening spirit (1 Corinthians 15:45)." I had no choice either in what the last Adam did, so it seems equally unfair that God forces even more suffering on us (let's face it, when you truly know God, you suffer even more for reasons I will explain later) because of what the last Adam did, more suffering and eventual death to self and resurrection in newness of life in Christ Jesus, which eventuates in true eternal life in down payment form in the flesh (knowing God and Christ as I do, as John 17:3 says, "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."), and eventual resurrection as spirit to rule and reign with Christ during the millennium and lake of fire redemptive judgment process. So "in Christ shall all be made alive" is a process all must go through eventually, a painful process of learning obedience to God through suffering, as Christ even did (Hebrews 5:8), and only few are selected sovereignly to experience this now, and assist Christ later in forcing this experience on all other unrepentant rebels in the lake of fire. So to summarize, physical suffering and physical death without a resurrection comes because of what the first Adam did, and spiritual suffering and spiritual death with a resurrection comes because of what the last Adam did. In neither case did the first Adam nor the last Adam's children have any free will choice in the matter, as we are born into the kingdom of darkness as sinners and we are born into the kingdom of God perfect, as like Christ, on the third day we will be perfected, made perfect after resurrection to spirit life, after our fiery redemptive judgment, either in this life or the next. But Christians scream foul and unfair here because God must be a gentleman and love me by respecting my "free will" to disobey God and still make it to heaven. God does not force Himself on anybody, so the theory goes. If God did not force Himself on all, none would be saved. You will thank Him one day. We all think we chose Christ of our own free will, but "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw (forcefully drag is another more accurate meaning of the word) him: and I will raise him up at the last day (John 6:44)." Then when the Father drags us to Christ, do we choose Christ of our own free will? "Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you (John 15:16)." This is just one of many verses that proclaim God's total sovereignty yet we have the illusion of free will. More on that later. I am not denying that we start off our Christian walk perceiving that we chose Christ at some point of our own free will, but as you mature, you realize it was all really God causing all your choices and circumstances of life, and you have no free will at all, but rather it is a very powerful and persistent illusion! So no, God does not seem like a gentleman sometimes, nor does He have to respect a free will you do not have, and yes He forcefully saves you eventually one way or another, in this life or the next. Try to get over it and see this as passionate love, as it will make your transition from your father the devil to your Heavenly Father a much easier transition. Though I sort of jest, as from your point of view you can choose, but really God will be behind all your choices, either good or evil, for your own fiery redemptive good. Another favorite verse of mine is "And I, if I be lifted up (ie crucified) from the earth, will draw (drag really is this word again) all men unto me (John 12:32)." It doesn't matter that Adolf Hitler died without Christ! God promises a resurrection from the dead in which He will deal with the Hitlers of the world and eventually drag all to Himself. All means all! Christ will drag all men unto Himself, either in this life or the next. Try to see it as a privilege to experience this process now this side of death.
I know many will still think God's universal salvation of all creation through "eternal torment" is unfair, because that also saves really bad people like Hitler...but imagine how God's fiery justice may manifest with Hitler in the second resurrection to judgment in the lake of fire, after the literal thousand year reign of Christ on earth (soon to be inaugurated). This judgment will be more like the concept of a supernatural purgatory at that time, instead of the seemingly "natural" fiery trials the elect face now; the elect come to understand that humans are already in "hell", and "eternal torment" is something we work through now as flesh and blood and everybody else will too eventually, one way or another. As for the German dictator, perhaps God will supernaturally make Hitler share consciousness with every Jew he was responsible for killing, and force Hitler to experience the last hour in the life of every Jew killed in World War Two. That is 684 years Hitler will experience pain, suffering, death, sharing the thoughts and feelings of the doomed Jews while also remembering his life as Hitler and understanding he is getting what he deserves. People take the "everlasting punishment" words in the Bible too literally, but when you know God's loving character AND have had experience with the spiritual fire yourself, you KNOW the everlasting is no more literal than the fire. "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment (second resurrection): but the righteous into life eternal (first resurrection). (Matthew 25:46)" These two resurrections are separated by a literal thousand years, and those are mere words to try to describe a spiritual experience that "feels" like fire, and feels like it will never end, but although Hitler's 684 years of this will sure feel like "forever fire", it does end once justice & salvation is complete. There are multitudinous creative ways God can fulfill His promise to save all souls in "a day." "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." (2 Peter 3:8) So, in other words, God promises that once He determinately decides to save an individual (angel or human), that being will be "saved" (ie changed way of thinking) within 1000 years, as we understand and perceive time. Why within 1000 years? Because "in the day [ie within 1000 years] that thou eatest thereof [of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil] thou shalt surely die." (Genesis 2:17) God means you will die to your carnal mind's way of thinking within a mere thousand years, and "rise from that dead way of thinking" to newness of spiritual life & wisdom & understanding. You will NOT reincarnate for trillions of years, or forever, as some think. God is more powerful than that, and more adept at keeping His promise to save all "in a day" than most realize. This is my last incarnation, but reincarnation is one way, among many, that God does this. God is very creative. Combinations undoubtedly exist, where Hitler might experience 684 years of continuous consciousness, while sharing the last hour in the lives of all the Jews he killed, as well as perhaps the man had (will have) some typical incarnations as a human (male or female) with amnesia about all this, like I am a human with amnesia. I just believe what God tells me and communicate it. That still leaves 316 years, as created beings understand time, for Hitler to be saved "in a day", which is more than enough time for another 4 to 5 typical human lifespans (more if he/she dies younger in some of them). All I know for sure is that God promises to complete justice & salvation & change for each individual created being, including Satan himself, within 1000 years of an equivalency of time perception(s) of fiery trials. The literal Satan and his fallen angels have not even started this process yet.
As far as reincarnation and escape from reincarnation goes, Christ said to Nicodemus, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." (John 3:3) So, it seems everybody is destined to be born again into flesh bodies at least a few times, probably with amnesia, but I can envision an incarnation where the person might regain total memory of a previous lifetime and must keep quiet about it, lest everybody think he or she is crazy, or a liar. We tend to judge others by our own experience(s), and our truth is the only truth, and since fully remembering a previous incarnation's details would seem to be a fairly unique experience among humans (or at least not openly admitted), then perhaps it is not common. Jesus' disciples seemed to have some interesting ideas around this concept. Christ asked His disciples, "Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets." (Matthew 16:13) So, the disciples thought Jesus might be a reincarnation of dead prophets, or even John the Baptist, who existed in Christ's lifetime, so concurrent incarnation seemed to be a possibility to them. So many interesting & creative ways God does things. But once you are pure spirit AND no longer need to suffer the "fiery trials of hell", then and only then, Christ also said you are truly "born again" of "the spirit", pretty much like Christ in every way, though still an individual in every way. "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." (John 3:6) So, in other words, humans are born flesh and so are said to be flesh and blood human beings. When you are fully born of the Spirit, you are likewise said to be a spirit being, with supernatural abilities like Christ had after rising from the dead, walking through walls and such. Since I am human, I only have supernatural abilities to hear God's voice and comprehend things, but I've also had sporadic supernatural manifestations & experiences, some instant and some over a long period of time. For example, my site talks lots about the UFO phenomenon and what that is all about, but I have been fascinated with that all my life, and more consciously the last 30 years or so. Seems I am contributing to supernaturally manifesting that over time, since UFOs are getting brazen and pentagon even admits it is real, and I appear to be the only one who understands what it is all about. None really talk about UFOs in any intelligent way. An example of instant supernatural would be the time I was daydreaming while driving a snowy road back to the town of Slave Lake, where I lived at the time. I lost track of the snowy road during a curve and drove into the ditch. Slave Lake is rather northern Alberta town, and hardly anybody is ever on the road. I was annoyed with myself and pissed that I would have to call a tow truck and probably wait a few hours. I grabbed my cell phone, but before I could even dial, a guy stopped immediately to help. That is odd enough, since virtually nobody is ever on this road. But he also had a winch on the front of his truck. He said he just put it on a few days ago, and this would be good chance for him to try it out. He hooked my truck up, pulled me out of the ditch, and I was on my way again in less than 5 minutes. I thanked him and didn't think much at the time, as I was rather unconscious back then. But now I know that was an angel...perhaps I'll be doing jobs like that after I am dead. For skeptics, I will just say that it is too coincidental that someone would stop IMMEDIATELY, on a road that virtually NOBODY travels, and he happened to have a WINCH on the front of his truck. The odds of something like that happening is greater than winning the lottery. I would have preferred to win the lottery and wait a few hours, but God don't always jump to my "greeds", but some of my "needs" have been met these ways. Oh yeah, and stuff like that has made it obvious to me that all humans' thoughts are being monitored all the time. Otherwise, the angel could not have appeared instantly when I needed help. If anybody reading this right now thinks he or she is alone in their thoughts right now, that is very naive. But I used to be very naive too. That's why I am very open about myself on this site, as who am I hiding from? God reads my mind ALL the time, and angels and demons can read my mind MOST of the time, and I have it on good authority that even the human governments (New World Order psychopath scumbags I call them) are monitoring my computer and website(s) closely. That is why the human New World Order psychopaths, and Satan and demons, all choose to be vicious, brutal, fucking pieces of shit. They know all this stuff, and they know that everybody has a pretty equivalent experience in the end, and none escape it. So why be good, when being bad is so much easier and more fun? Complicated question I attempt to explain all throughout this site. If I get the Almighty supernatural powers that I suspect I will get before everything is said and done, AND ALSO the supernatural rage state of mind that sometimes comes over me, the other side is going to see that I can also be very, very, very, bad too.
I am currently 52 years old, and since God tells me this is my last incarnation before becoming a fully "born of the Spirit" spirit being, then I only have to endure another 30 years or so maximum before I get to experience the "joy" of dying and getting the hell out of this "hell", if ya get ma drift. Woo hoo! I wanna die right now, but seems God has other plans. As I write now, it is February 23, 2022 and two years of covid psyop bullshit seems to be prep for even greater "hell", as I suspect an evil New World Order takeover attempt at some point, with or without an actual UFO demons open contact event. The government of Canada has just destroyed some family men truckers, who started a peaceful truckers convoy protest over covid by driving many trucks to Ottawa. Prime minorster Justin Trudeau, who I highly, highly, highly suspect is a New World Order agent (his actions show it), refused to even meet with the truckers, declared a type of Marshall law, sent police in to physically assault them, labeled them terrorists so he had excuse to use the bully-club of government to rape their bank accounts, freeze their assets, even had some police plant fake assault weapons and charged 4 with conspiracy to murder the police, etc... This is Hitler's 1930s Germany repeat of history. I suspect it could be a very short time now, for the real endgame to heat up. This is just a mild warm-up, in many ways. I feel it in my bones. Website author's note: Hitler's 1930s Germany is only just beginning. Canada will probably get what it deserves because, as the saying goes, "THOSE WHO DON'T LEARN FROM HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT!"
But anyway, back to more obvious spiritual matters (everything is spirit actually). I reiterate. Jesus said, "Everyone will be salted (saved, as salt is preservative) with fire. (Mark 9:49)" Everyone means everyone. Nobody escapes the fire (hell) and everybody is saved by it. We elect will educate Hitler about the fire scriptures with 1 Peter 4:12 words like, "Beloved (Hitler is God's beloved same as all), think it not strange concerning the fiery trial (this ordeal will certainly be "fire" for him, not literal fire but "fiery trial" alright) which is to try you (this is both justice to try Hitler and also save him in the end), as though some strange thing happened unto you (this is not strange, as all elect go through it, Rachel elect as flesh and blood and Leah elect after physical death). (1 Peter 4:12)" In the Old Testament shadow of Jesus' polygamous wives, Jacob (Christ) had two wives, Rachel who he loved more than Leah. Rachel symbolically represents those wives in the first resurrection, who Christ loves more than the Leah class from the second resurrection (like Hitler) who Christ loves less. Christ naturally feels closer to first resurrection destined elect, who come to proper understanding while flesh and blood, like Christ Himself did. First resurrection destined "Rachels" have much more similar experience to Christ as flesh and blood. Second resurrection destined "Leahs" physically die still confused whether or not a loving God tortures in literal fire forever, or whether or not hell even exists; it most certainly does, but it is both redemptive AND punitive, not simply punitive as most believe. Some cults like Jehovah's Witnesses teach hell is annihilation, but that is also literalist confusion. Try to think spiritually, although none can fully appreciate/understand spiritual fire until get some experience with it. Everybody will, sooner or later, in this life or the next, and there will no longer be any confusion about God's loving salvational fire. If you can see yourself as Hitler, getting what you deserve now for preexistence sins, as humans are incarnations of fallen angels, suffering redemptive justice now as flesh and blood will make more sense, and the theology of suffering will take on new depths of meaning. Nobody likes it, but I'm not the type to deny reality and bury my head in the sand with simplistic notions that a sovereign God only creates good and does good only. He is sovereign Creator of the evil as well, but just uses the evil (pain/suffering) for the good of that person who endures the good/evil fiery correction to save. "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." (Isaiah 45:7) If you still don't understand, the "good" news is you will when you physically die, for you will receive your hot salvation sooner or later, in this life or the next. The first resurrection destined elect experience this now as human, so in some ways good to get it over with. None escape redemptive judgment/justice, and in an odd way, the Rachel elect of God are privileged to get it over with now and be able/allowed to write about it all plainly like I can.
While Hitler is experiencing all this, Christ and the Rachel elect will also educate him about all I reveal on this site, and about Hitler's own eventual salvation, and such deep concepts as God's total sovereignty and the illusion of free will, but such concepts will be easier to understand then because Hitler will fully understand he has no free will to prevent what is happening or change what must be. This is an example of how the supernatural redemptive fire of God will manifest for those in the lake of fire after the thousand years. It will be an obvious and blatant supernatural experience of purifying and refining and cleansing fire to save those in that fire and it will be related and natural negative consequences (punishment) commensurate with the evils that being has done. I am not sure what will be an adequate fearsome and terrifying ordeal for the literal devil, but I am confident God knows how to fulfill His words of universal salvation for all creation! The proper understanding and respect of God's idea of redemptive justice is meant to motivate us with the proper balance of love and fear and terror to help keep us spiritually awake, alert, and help discipline the lazy selfish carnal mind, which tends to fall asleep, spiritually speaking, which means we tend to lose awareness God sees all and fail to consistently practice the presence of God and talk to God about all things all the time, lest we make stupid mistakes and face more redemptive karma justice in various ways even in this life,(which we all do) let alone get more in the next life,(in obvious supernatural/terrifying fashion) which reality is meant to make us sober and circumspect in our spiritual walk. Paul said to pray without ceasing (1 Thessalonians 5:16) and since prayer is talking to God, Paul is talking about this state of mind to be aware of God's voice and presence always. Man must live by every word of God, and Bible also talks about the fear of the Lord and terror of the Lord, and Jesus experienced this too, and those who embrace this sense of fear and terror God uses to communicate with us are able to rise to a higher level than most, like Jesus and Paul. But it takes time and practice to discern God's good fear and terror from the devil's fake fear and terror and know what to do in situations.
Those who mock and show no proper fear and respect of how the lake of fire might manifest after the thousand years, show they have not yet experienced sufficient supernatural "fiery trials" (1 Peter 4:12) as human, which I try to describe on this site, to help keep them motivated by the right combination of both love and fear to make honest effort to always obey God, though such effort counts nothing towards salvation, to try and avoid more symbolic fire after physical death, if nothing else, but really the elect feel the combination power of obeying God with both good motivations (love, gratitude, appreciation), born out of deep understanding of the issues of life and the heart and also some supernatural reverential fear to help discipline the lazy, selfish, carnal mind. This kind of love is not always easy, nor can be faked before God or angels, but only naive humans can be deceived by fake believers destined for the second resurrection (lake of fire), who typically maintain a lifelong mocking attitude towards universal salvation of, "God can burn me after death, no big deal, it's a day at Hawaii, doesn't matter because I will still eventually make it to heaven". The elect like me understand this lazy and abusive attitude to the Lord's grace, as we all work through it, and that attitude is one of many things to overcome to be in the first resurrection. People with such immature attitude show they are still too carnal and fleshly in their thinking because they respect physical things more than spiritual. For example, man's physical prison symbolically represents God's justice system called hell, but nobody has such attitude about man's justice. Just because my country does not have the death penalty, nobody would then rob banks and indiscriminately kill the tellers with the attitude, "The government can throw me in jail, no big deal, it's a day at Hawaii, doesn't matter because I will still eventually be let out of prison after 25 years." I hope my readers see their own stupid thinking in misunderstanding universal salvation's severity, but I was also stupid and we all need to learn these spiritual truths from experience. At first, we all give more fear and respect to judgmental humans we can see, before we learn to fear and respect more the judgmental God we don't see, as the permissive hyper grace message deceives people from understanding that the good purpose of God's grace is to chasten us to forsake ungodliness (Titus 2:11) not that God's grace will allow itself to be abused and taken advantage of forever. Yes God's grace is unmerited favor, especially in the early years of your Christian walk God goes easy on you, but as you mature into elect and know you are, then you also understand God expects you to get dominion over sin in time, while humbly admitting you will never be perfect as flesh and blood. "For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace." (Romans 6:14). It is not law that brings this dominion over sin, but God's active chastening grace, often felt as some healthy fear of God's loving supernatural "fiery" corrective judgments. "My flesh trembleth for fear of thee; and I am afraid of thy judgments." (Psalm 119:120) How this fear and "fiery trial" judgments exactly work out in your life is different for every person, and totally supernatural, so don't expect to fully understand until it happens to you. Humans cannot chasten or correct ungodly thinking or behavior very well, even though we try and sometimes have majority loving motivations, but typically people do not take correction or direction very well from fellow sinful humans. For those who don't yet understand my words, remember as a physical child you did not fear or respect physical parents either until experience some chastening "grace" to forsake ungodly behavior. Similar analogy but only the elect eventually get supernatural experiences that bring that elect to understand the things I write on this site with ease, because the invisible God must make His presence known personally to each elect, and also make His will clear to that elect. Until then, God is just a vague concept to give lip service to, if any service at all.
Here is an example of where you can put several verses together to prove the same concept. "Therefore God exalted Him to the highest place, and gave Him the name above all names, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven (the devil and demons have access to heaven as the book of Job shows, so a prophecy of eventual salvation of evil spirits) and on earth (humans) and under the earth (the dead), and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father (Philippians 2:10)." This confession of the Lordship of Christ can only be done to the greatest glory of God the Father, if it is a willing confession done out of true contrition and understanding of the love of God. "Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost (1 Corinthians 12:3)." So again, this verse amplifies the previous, in that it confirms that no man can confess Jesus Lord, except by the power of the Holy Spirit, and since every knee will bow and confess, then it means God by the power of His Holy Spirit, will cause all to bow, confess Jesus as Lord, and ultimately therefore be saved. And "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness (1 John 1:9)." Logically, since all will bow the knee to Christ eventually and confess, and confession results in forgiveness, then all will be saved. "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved (Romans 10:9)." So here again, confession is the very definition of salvation, and every knee will bow and confess eventually, either in this life or the next, so these combination of verses, put together, logically show the salvation of all. And finally, my last favorite is 1 Timothy 4:10 "For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe." Jesus can't be said to be Savior of all the world if He does not indeed save the whole world. But this verse says He is Savior "specially of those that believe", meaning a very small few, the Bible says in Revelation is 144,000 spiritual Jews (Revelation 7:9), who will be in the first resurrection to rule and reign with Christ as spirit beings. The 144,000 is a symbolic number, not meant to be taken literally that the spots for the first resurrection elect are closed to only 144,000. 12 is God's number for His perfect government, made up of 12 x 12,000 spiritual Jews each from the 12 spiritual tribes of Jacob, symbolically represented by 12 ruling tribes of ancient Israel, and 12 ruling apostles given the task to start preaching the good news of universal salvation to ancient man. The main point is the final number is very small indeed compared to the untold hundreds of billions and perhaps a trillion or more born since Adam and Eve, and only an extremely small symbolic 7 thousand are on the earth at any one time, according to what the Spirit says in the story of Elijah running from Jezebel and God told Elijah He always has 7 thousand on the earth who learn not to bow the knee to Baal's lies, such as God is an eternal torturer monster (ie traditional idea of hell) and weak impotent boob God who can't save all creation. I explained in previous chapters that scriptural fire is a symbol, usually not meant to be taken literally, and gave many examples of this. Please re-read that chapter, as I will not harp on this point. Suffice it to say, Bible says we face the fire now in the form of fiery trials (1 Peter 4:12) and let it burn out all lies and false beliefs of the devil, or we join the devil and his angels, and all unrepentant humanity in the fire after physical death called the lake of fire and complete this process. I say complete, because nobody can deny we face fiery trials in life, as it is a daily reality for all, however very few make it to the first resurrection because of God's sovereign decree.
Finally, admittedly, there aren't as many scriptures to prove the salvation of the devil and his angels, because the Bible is mostly about God's dealings with humans, but the Bible still has many hints and clues about angelic interaction with humans and hints at their fate. "For God was pleased to have all His fullness dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things on earth (humans) or things in heaven (evil angels), by making peace through the blood of His cross (Colossians 1:20)." But really, in my way of thinking, if you believe all evil humans can be saved by fire, and "every one shall be salted (preserved as salt is a preservative) with fire" (Mark 9:49), then logically all evil spirits will be saved by fire as well. There is no difference in the end between evil unrepentant humans and all evil spirits since all go to the same place in the end (ie hell), and once humans are raised, they are raised spirit and able to endure the spiritual fire of the lake of fire. Proof all humans, even evil ones, are raised spirit is 1 Corinthians 15:44, "It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body." You are raised as perfect spirit, cleansed by fiery trials on earth (a type of "hell"), salvation completed and ready to serve God and Christ, or you are raised as imperfect spirit, still with a carnal mind, enmity towards God (Romans 8:9), and ready for more purification and cleansing in the spiritual lake of fire. I know many will still find it difficult to perceive God's lake of fire as a purifying force that saves, because traditional religions, including Christianity, brainwash people from birth to think God is an eternal torturer monster, and the idea of universal salvation of all creation is a minority viewpoint. Nonetheless, it is logical that for God to call Himself a God of love, there must be something loving about all He does, including casting beings into the lake of fire. In addition to logical, it is also Biblical to say the fire of God saves. "If any man's work shall be burned (our evil works, beliefs, are burned out of us, a big one believing God is an eternal torturer monster), he shall suffer loss:(not loss of salvation but possibly loss of first resurrection, peace of mind, assurance of salvation, understanding etc...) but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire (the fire still saves, whether fully experienced in this life or the next) (1 Corinthians 3:15)." Obviously God's fire has a saving aspect to it, as this verse clearly says. Since we all must live by every word of God, we will all also live this verse in our own way. In the final analysis, all of us are saved by fire (never forget everyone will be salted with fire, Mark 9:49), as we are not naturally self-sacrificial and God must put us all through a fiery redemptive process to burn out our evil and selfish ways of being, before we can appreciate a God who loves us so much as to save us by fire, and make us the type of being that will embrace God's sovereign suffering fostered upon us for our own good, as well as the good of all creation. Christ suffered and died for all wayward creation, and as His body, the body of Christ will also suffer and die for all wayward creation. We all must, in the final analysis, "fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in [our] flesh for his body's sake, which is the church [all wayward creation, as all evil ones are destined to be the wife/wives of Christ eventually] (Colossians 1:24)." The theology of suffering is a mystery we would all rather not understand, but it is reality, and God's way of saving all devils (humans or spirits), and Christ's life of suffering obedience is something all must, and will, either in this life or the next, learn to embrace for the good of all. "But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you." (1 Peter 5:10) Here God clearly says it is ordained of God we all go through the same experience, and suffer a while before being strengthened and settled in the good salvational reasons for it, not that all suffering ends as long as you are flesh and blood. Once all are saved and reconciled, suffering obedience will disappear and only joyful obedience will remain, for none will have to suffer anymore for their own disobedience or suffer vicariously anymore for anyone else's disobedience, like Christ and His body on earth currently suffer for these general reasons of their own sin and disobedience as well as for others' sin and disobedience. Christ died to buy you eventual victorious obedience in this life or the next, not that you will escape all fiery trials and suffering to bring about this type of obedience, as even Christ promised, "In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world (John 16:33)." Christ, who is in you, and "greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world (1 John 4:4)," will overcome in you and you will become obedient eventually, even obedience unto the death of the cross, dying to self even when it hurts.
You only really come to know Christ when you experience "the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death (Philippians 3:10)." The fellowship of His sufferings is to know and understand the complicated things I reveal on this site, and agree with God about the necessity of suffering and embrace by faith the ultimate good God brings from suffering for everybody in the end, and conformable unto His death, of course, means you develop the mindset Christ had of dying to your own will and obeying God even if it causes you suffering, and despite understanding all the issues of life and the heart, you do not take advantage of God's grace with the attitude, "Oh well, God just loves me unconditionally and I'm guaranteed to be saved for the simple fact all are saved, so I might as well just sin and enjoy my sin." Christ understood all these things and the significance of His suffering and death, and He did not take obedience lightly, but rather sweat drops of blood in the garden of Gethsemane over the issue of obeying God under extreme duress, pressure, pain and suffering. We all, but especially the elect, will learn to obey God like this, because God is sovereign and can supernaturally cause us to strive to obey Him like this, even though we understand universal salvation of all creation. Obeying God like this is a supernatural thing, as we have only the illusion of free will, so God can make all obey Him like this in the end. I say again obeying God in radical ways like Jesus and the apostles all died for Christ, and Bible characters like Daniel choosing lions den and Abraham choosing to sacrifice his son etc....shows that even though all these people understood all get saved in the end, like Christ, they matured to the point that they rendered God radical levels of obedience, though they knew they did not HAVE to, as they were saved only by faith in Christ's sacrifice, not their works, and all elect come to thoroughly understand that their good works do not save them, and their bad works do not damn them, and yet their love for Christ and His sacrifice eventually inspires the true elect to do some crazy things. They did some crazy works didn't they! Impressive! God has ways of inspiring your individual thinking to help you push yourself. For example, God tells me Christ Himself was inspired and helped by scriptural examples of His elect eventually maturing to fully understand all the things I write on this site (Jesus said Abraham rejoiced to see His day and saw it and was glad, so God revealed Himself to Abraham, who knew all about Jesus and the things I reveal on this site) and rendered crazy obedience because they knew their example would be recorded in scripture to likewise inspire Christ in His greatest moment of need when He sweat drops of blood in the garden of Gethsemane.
In similar manner, God tells me that though my life and this website are not recorded in scripture, nevertheless as one of His elect, Christ had supernatural visions of what I would eventually do for Him in the future, and likewise my crazy example inspired Him 2000 years ago when He needed inspiration. So I push myself on for my spiritual husband, as He pushed Himself for me, enduring e-mail attacks for the crazy truths I reveal on this site, some death threats even from cowards hiding behind police untraceable hotmail accounts. I live daily life knowing I make apparent free will choices but give God the glory for all I do as His sovereign will and choices for my life, as He is able to inspire me to my own crazy level of obedience in love, gratitude, and appreciation for what He did for me. When devil attacks that my life is small and meaningless, Holy Spirit reminds me that Jesus had visions of my future life, as He did all elect in history, and how it helped Him, so I continue to grow and mature always and go deeper always and never stop, as He never stopped for me. One of the 10 commandments says "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy". The Sabbath day spiritually pictures resting from any idea our works count anything to our salvation, either good or evil works, for God is sovereign and does all our works, both good and evil, through the illusion of free will. So Sabbath pictures resting and taking comfort in the idea God is totally in sovereign control of all things both good and evil. This is impossible to always understand or recall throughout the day when difficult things happen and you have to remember God is causing it for your good and growth. That is why God starts the command with "Remember" as He knows we will forget and He also said "Keep it Holy" so in other words also remember God has Holy (good) reasons for all He causes to happen, which contributes to not only your salvation but eventually all creation. Our lives are being recorded like on a spiritual video camera and recording our thoughts even, and this will be used in the future to help save those in the second resurrection, and once all are saved, God will use human history examples in furthering bringing more sentient creatures of different types into existence. There are so many levels of significance to every life that none fully comprehend at this time, but the elect like me can comprehend more than most as we learn to hear Christ's voice tell us so many amazing things to inspire, and a sovereign God even causes me reverential fear sometimes to fear to let Him down as He needed my inspiring example 2000 years ago. Most people will say if all get saved eventually, who cares, just sin more and enjoy, and I understand that disgusting attitude to abuse the Lord's grace as I thought like that too for a long time, but Holy Spirit has ways to motivate and inspire.
For example, although all creation will be saved the same way by fire in this life or the next, and all creation will experience what it means even to be elect, there are differences that only Holy Spirit can show you to inspire and motivate. To reiterate, in the Old Testament shadow of Jesus' polygamous wives, Jacob (Christ) had two wives, Rachel who he loved more than Leah. Rachel symbolically represents those wives in the first resurrection who Christ loves more than the Leah class from the second resurrection who Christ loves less. I desire to be Rachel elect personally and those who are comfortable with being Leah elect, then good for you. I am glad you will be eventually saved too, but imagine the more greater sex and orgasms and more frequent sex Jacob must have had with Rachel. Hint, hint...God is sovereign and makes us who we are and those in the first resurrection are a bit sex crazy if you get my drift. You will have to think more about what I mean by that, but as a hint, it is sort of pleasurable sexual union even now with Christ as I hear His thoughts and write these things, as Bible says husband and wife become one flesh (one mind and can read each other's thoughts). I will leave it for you to imagine what a spiritual orgasm is. :-) One final note God is prompting me to point out. "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."(Matthew 24:24) This verse talks about the alien god deception, when demons (false Christs and false prophets) will openly show themselves and deceive mankind into following them, except the very elect, who cannot be deceived about this. When I make distinction between Rachel elect and Leah elect, it is just another way of highlighting the Bible distinction between the "elect" and the "very elect", mentioned in this verse. Up to this point in my writings I have talked about the elect, but now I feel lead to further expound what I mean. Rachel elect is same as saying very elect, who are all those who make the first resurrection, from the days of the first very elect, Abel, Adam and Eve's son, to the literal return of Christ to setup the literal Kingdom of God on earth. The very elect cannot be deceived by the alien god deception simply because God chooses to make it very plain the truth on this matter and also will supernaturally enable the very elect to stand if they are alive when it happens. We are closer now than ever to this unveiling. I desire to be alive for it, but am content with God's will for my life if I die before it happens. The very elect on earth at the time will be ready, as they have for thousands of years. God prepares the very elect personally, whether He uses humans like me, or other supernatural means. All other humans are simply elect, or Leah elect, those who will end up in the second resurrection to the lake of fire after the thousand years, and if you have no Holy Spirit zeal to desire to be Rachel elect, then good for you, but I am not one of those. I am glad you and everybody will be saved eventually, but personally do not desire to be in the resurrection that includes extreme sinners like child rapists, Judas, serial murderers, despots like Hitler, and even the literal devil himself. God considers humans who have little regard for being Rachel elect in the first resurrection to be just as bad as the crowd mentioned above. I can be and have been spiritually lazy too, so understand, but ultimately I am Rachel elect, aka very elect, destined for the first resurrection, and if you are too you will hear the voice of the good shepherd in the things I write.
I also liken this understanding I have to an iceberg. 10% of an iceberg is above the surface of the water but 90% is below the surface of the water, the more dangerous part of the iceberg that will gut your ship if you get too close (ie this 90% knowledge I have is dangerous in the sense I am now more accountable to God and God expects more from me, even to die in non-violent opposition to the alien gods if necessary upon their "unveiling"). The 10% of the iceberg represents surface level superficial truth, the general truth most humans, even professing Christians, like to argue about. Successful public ministries must stay in the realm of this kind of truth because the 90% deeper truth represented by the unseen part of the iceberg can only be revealed and understood by Holy Spirit personally, whether Holy Spirit uses humans like me to help preach it or not, it is still supernatural understanding ultimately given by God Himself. "For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more." (Luke 12:48) Much knowledge and understanding has simply been given to me, as I could never have figured all this out in my human wisdom. From my point of view, I have put effort and work into it, but reading the next paragraph below will hopefully help my readers understand my humble attitude to attribute it all to a sovereign God. The much required of me at this point is simply to live a quiet and content godly life, like the first very elect, Abel, focusing on presenting my body a living sacrifice, which is my reasonable service. I share my faith sometimes with people, but rarely can discuss faith matters in any deep way. As you can imagine, very few can understand, receive, or really care. It is like sharing Einstein's theory of relativity, which is easy to understand at a high abstract level. Time is a dimension that can change based on gravitational forces, so time can pass at different rates, and theoretically we could perhaps one day create a time machine. We have all been entertained with movies about time travel, which is easy concept to understand at high abstract level, just like universal salvation is easy to understand if all you think is "God loves all and so will save all." Simple. Easy. But the very elect, aka Rachel elect, are like those who understand the math and physics equations (complications and detailed understanding) behind relativity because God enables them to understand. These ones can hold in balance all the complications and implications behind universal salvation and be motivated and encouraged by this truth rather than discouraged and demotivated to just sin all the more and let God fix me after physical death.
It is hard for the human mind to understand paradoxes. Time paradoxes of movies are symbolic of the obedience paradox, one must obey God and complete their destiny as Rachel elect or the devil wins and becomes God and we all go to the devil's version of hell, literal fire forever! This paradox pressure is illustrated in the movie, "The Terminator", when John Connor of the future sends his father, Kyle Reese, back in time to save his mom, Sarah Connor, from being terminated by Arnold Schwarzenegger's character, the terminator, before John can be born and become resistance leader to defeat the machines. John never tells Kyle that Kyle is actually his father and his mission will be a success because this paradox knowledge might affect the outcome. Imagine if John told Kyle this information and Kyle says, "Well the terminator has already gone back in time, and yet here we are in the future and you still exist, John. So obviously the terminator was not successful or you would simply disappear here in the future. So I am not risking my life to go back in time because it is unnecessary as you are already safe here in the future, John!" If Kyle made that determination then John would definitely disappear! Kyle only partly understands the paradox. Yes, they are in the future and the terminator has already gone back in time, and since Kyle has not yet left the future but John exists, then the terminator has already been defeated. But Kyle must still complete his destiny (obey God, complete his mission) and go back in time and defeat the terminator! Kyle can delay his mission in the future all he wants, take months or even years to hit the gym and exercise and build muscle in preparation for going back in time for battle, and John will always exist in this future because Kyle still has intention to eventually go back in time to do his duty and complete the paradox loop. It is only if Kyle determines NEVER to go back in time, then John of the future disappears once this decision is determinately made, for Kyle will never impregnate Sarah! Although paradoxes can be hard for the human mind to understand, this is one of many things the very elect, aka Rachel elect, overcome and become Kyle Reeses who can go back in time and battle the terminator (demons), knowing they will be successful and impregnate Sarah (conceive Christ in others, Sarah being the true spiritual church, technically everybody but only Rachel elect at this time), and learn to live their lives as if things are spontaneously happening and free will choices are being made, yet knowing God is in sovereign control of all things, both good and evil, for the ultimate good of salvation of all. The Rachel elect eventually practice extreme obedience in their personal lives, considering this the much required at this time, and our reasonable service, ready to openly oppose the deceptive alien gods to the death if necessary, as the much that may be required if it happens in their lifetime. The very elect eventually think daily like Sly Stallone said in the Rambo movie, when he risked his life to save captive missionaries, and inspired his fellow mercenaries to risky action when he said, "There isn't one of us who wouldn't rather be somewhere else, but this is who we are, this is what we do. Die for something (Christ) or live for nothing (self)!"
Proper mature understanding of universal salvation should inspire, encourage, and motivate us to push into Christ for His glory's sake, with no fear of failure, fear of what people think, performance anxiety etc...but realistically we will always have negative emotions to manage, and proper mature understanding of universal salvation can help greatly, but as the saying goes courage is not the absence of fear, but overcoming fear by acting despite fear. "The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion." (Proverbs 28:1) The true righteous of God eventually understand all these truths in the way God desires us to understand and become bold as a lion in life in general, sharing their faith, etc..., once they get past the wicked stage of development where we tend to flee when no man (human) pursues us, but we are running in fear from demons we can't see. Really we have nothing to fear in suffering, as He is always with us, nor in death, as He is always with us, and now you know why Romans 8:38 talks about how even death cannot separate us from the love of God, as all are saved eventually one way or another, even if after physical death. However, inappropriate immature understanding of universal salvation discourages and demotivates babes in Christ, who cannot discern any reason to follow Christ if there is no personal fame, glory, money, reward, or some other selfish motivation to radically obey God, such as a subtle sense even of earning or at least maintaining their salvation by obeying God, avoiding hell etc... Such thinking comes from our proud carnal devilish minds, which must be overcome if we are to serve God in the next life, as there is no money or selfish motivations there, as the only currency there is love (God) and the only desire for fame there is for truth (Christ) to be famous. But we were all babes in Christ at one point in our spiritual walk, and going on to maturity to love sacrificially like Christ while also having this deep understanding of the mind of Christ is a supernatural thing to which God gets all the glory.
Now for more on the final major concept one must understand to be the "very" elect in the first resurrection, lack of free will. This concept is easy to understand, but impossible to accept without a supernatural revelation from God, and ongoing supernatural strength from God to retain this knowledge and walk in it. It is so easy to get immersed in this current reality and forget that God is in complete sovereign control of everything in a world that seems out of control, and we only have the illusion of free will. I find I have to catch myself often throughout the day, but really it is God causing me to remember, and remind myself I am not in control and don't have to try so hard to control myself and everybody and everything around me, but rather can "let go and let God", as the saying goes. Again, I will just comment on my favorite verses about this topic. I know most will not be able to accept it, no matter how hard I try to prove it. "In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will (Ephesians 1:11)." Working all things means just that, all things. All things are worked and controlled by God, including your thoughts, words, actions, and the thoughts, words, actions of others, and all seeming non-human actions such as bad weather, accidents, disease, etc....The double-edged nature of God's words (Hebrews 4:12) is that there is both positive and negative applications, as working all things good we can easily accept comes from God, but also working all things evil is harder for us to accept comes from God as well. "Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure (Philippians 2:13)." This verse clearly has both concepts of free will and God's sovereignty in play. You work out your own salvation with fear and trembling! That is something scripture commands you to do, but not with the implication that you do such with any free will at all, "for it is God which works in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure." There it is clearly, free will alongside God's total sovereignty. We must walk in the illusion of free will, busting our balls to pursue excellence and perfection in our walk and obedience to God, out of love, gratitude, and appreciation towards God for all He has done and does do for us, but at the same time realize we have no free will at all, and all is of God. It is rather a mind job I must admit, and a bit of a mystery to understand and walk in but there it is. If it were any other way, God could not save all, because we all naturally are selfish (devils) and will follow our own way to hell rather than submit to a God who seems cruel and evil and abusive for expecting us to obey Him, even when obedience is difficult and painful and costs us something, like Christ obeyed God and suffered and died for us. His life is a type and shadow of what we must, and will do, sooner or later, in our own way. And since God works both good and evil within us, to will and to do His good pleasure is to do both a combination of good and evil things. Yes, it is His good pleasure to cause us to do evil sometimes, as that is how we learn the hard way about consequences. We should not be surprised, as God freely admits to being the author of evil, not the devil. God takes responsibility for re-creating the devil and re-initiating the spirit war for His good pleasure of saving and humbling all creation. God takes responsibility for evil when He describes evil as something He created in Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." He takes full responsibility for all the mess in the universe, as He is God and could have destroyed the devil, or tortured in literal fire forever, but rather God is love and must save the hard way through pain and suffering and tough lessons for all.
Another example of this concept is in Exodus 5, when God sent Moses to confront the Pharaoh of Egypt and demand Pharaoh let the Israelites go free from bondage to being slaves. God sends 10 plagues to force Pharaoh to let the Israelites go, and Pharaoh would initially agree just to stop the plague but later harden his heart and change his mind. After each plague, the Bible says something interesting about the condition of Pharaoh's heart. After the first few plagues, Bible says Pharaoh hardened his heart, but later the Bible always says God hardened Pharaoh's heart. There's the mystery of God's sovereignty and man's free will from a different angle. The first few plagues, Pharaoh hardened his heart. So God let's you do as you wish, but only when your "free will" is exactly what God wants you to do anyway, whether good or evil, in this case evil as it is evil to harden your heart and disobey God. Then the last many plagues, God supernaturally hardens Pharaoh's heart and forces him to rebel against God and punishes him too, resulting in the deaths of many children with the last plague, including Pharaoh's own son. The devil in us judges God harshly for such actions, as God's morality does not agree with our own small mind, and killing children seems wrong to us. None of this makes sense unless you keep in mind the salvation of all, even those children God killed, and Pharaoh too, and all will understand God completely one day, and be reconciled not only to God, but to one another. All good and evil and all pain and suffering contributes to the ultimate salvation of all creation, and all will agree one day that God is good, loving, perfect, and fair, and all was necessary for the ultimate good. Keeping this ultimate good end result in mind, makes the difficulties of life a little easier to bear. To summarize, another way to look at this issue is to say God gives you free will when you will do exactly what God wants you to do anyway, and override your free will and force you to do what He wants all other times. From our point of view, we cannot tell the difference very often, though I can sometimes, and in hindsight can see times when God did this in my own life. But if God let's you have free will only when you do what He wants, you really have no free will. All other times, God forces you to do what He wants, so in the end, we have no free will at all and God is totally sovereign. Nuf said. My final favorite verse is Proverbs 16:1 "The preparations of the heart in man, and the answer of the tongue, is from the Lord." This verse says the very thoughts you think and the words you speak are caused by a sovereign God, but this is weird because I really think I am thinking thoughts of my own free will and speaking on my own accord. But that is the illusion! And the devil especially does not want you to know the truth, that God is the sovereign creator of evil, as Isaiah 45:7 says, for Satan, like us all, wants to take credit for evil! Yes, oddly enough, we want to take credit for our evil, as our desire to be as sovereign as God is a key trait of proud devils, who do not want to obey God, either in doing good or evil. It humbles us to realize both the good we do AND the evil, comes from God. The devil in us wants to proclaim and believe our free will to do evil is stronger than God's sovereign ability to make us do evil, humble us, and eventually force us to repent, either in this life or the next. We do not like forceful salvation, even though it is for our own good. Satan wants you to be enraged or full of fear, to attribute evil to God, but God freely admits to creating evil and being sovereign over all good and evil. The devil will enrage you with such an idea, or make you think this truth is blasphemy that will damn you to hell. The truth is quite opposite, and scripture always is a double edged sword with both good and evil application. If Proverbs 16:1 says our thoughts and words come from God, that is not only good thoughts and words from a trusted friend, but also the thoughts and words of a con man, trying to swindle your money. God has tough lessons for us all to learn, in this battle between good (God) and evil (the devil). Do you really think I typed all the words on this website of my own free will? Here are some more scriptures to prove we do not have free will but the next link has much more. Click The parable of the 95 theses to learn lots about not only God's total sovereignty, aka lack of free will, but MANY other lies of traditional Christianity: This parable link starts right at point #28 in my parody of Luther's 95 theses and continues until point #82 with scriptures and explanations about God's total sovereignty.
I fully understand my take on the mystery of man's free will versus God's total sovereignty is very controversial. So let me try to soften it a bit by admitting, it is indeed a deep mystery! You can also make the case that we have limited free will at times, and God only overrides our free will at certain select times, which we cannot detect, to bring about His will of the ultimate salvation of all. Even Jesus seemed to grapple with the whole free will/no free will concept, as in the garden of gethsemane, before He was about to be crucified, He agonized, "And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt (Matthew 26:39)." Here even Jesus seemed to grapple with the issue, as it seemed from His human point of view, He could, of His own free will, influence God to change the plan. But He also acknowledged the sovereignty of God when He said nevertheless not my will but your (God's) will be done. The concept of the total sovereignty of God goes hand in hand with the concept of universal salvation, because there is no other way God can save all other than by force and His total sovereignty. So if Jesus was struggling with total sovereignty then I know He was struggling with the idea His death would be enough to save all, but He didn't cross the line in His mind into doubt and unbelief, as evidenced by rising from the dead and teaching the Apostle Paul all these things, and Paul's writings, in case you didn't notice I quote him most, say all these things I teach the clearest of all the apostles. Even then, Paul's writings are supernaturally twisted by demons, who do not want these truths be known. Jesus was enduring intense Satanic spiritual warfare in the garden of Gethsemane, and during intense supernatural spiritual warfare it is only natural to struggle and grapple with such a deep mystery as God's total sovereignty over both good and evil, and I will admit there is much mystery still about God to me. The Bible talks about the mystery of iniquity (2 Thessalonians 2:7), the mystery of godliness (1 Timothy 3:16), and how we must be "holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience (1 Timothy 3:9)," and 1 Corinthians 2:10 says there is such a thing as "the deep things of God." So I am totally open to hearing other people's beliefs and opinions on this issue, however I lean towards believing human free will and free choice is a very powerful and persistent illusion, due to my own supernatural revelations and experiences. In God's economy, the explanation between various possibilities which is the most humbling tends to be the truth. A good analogy in the natural is the scientific principle of Occam's razor, the principle that, of two explanations that account for all the facts, the simpler one is more likely to be correct. Spiritual Occam's razor says the most humbling explanation tends to be the truth, among two spiritual possibilities. God can save all through either paradigm of partial free will or zero free, but partial free will is more understandable and acceptable to our carnal devilish minds, but zero free will is more confusing, not so easy to accept or understand, so more humbling, and so I say is the truth on this matter.
If we truly had 100% free will all the time, as most claim to believe, none would be saved because none would choose God's way of suffering and dying even for enemies. But I present the partial free will explanation in love, as concession to those who cannot bear the full brunt of difficult spiritual truth, as even Jesus said to His disciples after His resurrection, "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now (John 16:12)." Now you know some of the difficult things Jesus told His disciples many years after His resurrection, when they too worked through the issues of life and the heart and they learned to hear Christ's voice and follow Him (John 10:27). In light of the total sovereignty of God, I am haunted by Christ's own words and example as in, "Then saith Pilate unto him, Speakest thou not unto me? knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to release thee? (John 19:10)." "Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin (John 19:11)." Here Jesus clearly said Pilate did not have the power to crucify Him, except God from above gave Pilate this power, and goes on to say that he that delivered Christ to Pilate has the greater sin. Traditionally, Christians have taken this to refer to Judas, the one who betrayed Christ and delivered Christ to be crucified, and I agree with this surface interpretation. However to the mature with deeper understanding of the total sovereignty of God, Christ is also saying, if you can handle it, that God is guilty of the greater sin of crucifying Christ, because it is God who ultimately, by allowing (causing) Satan to possess Judas (Luke 22:3), delivered Christ to be crucified. I believe Jesus knew what sin was, so I do not argue with Christ here, but I draw distinction between God sinning, as Jesus clearly said, but God is not a sinner, as His heart is in the right place and He means well by His sins. One can technically sin, but yet not be a sinner if your heart has 100% loving motivations behind it. But Jesus also set the example of how we should respond to this truth when He said on the cross in Luke 23:34, "Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do." Again, a double meaning here. Yes, Christ was asking His Father to forgive the puppets (the humans) who were crucifying Him, but the deeper subtle meaning is Christ was indirectly saying He forgave the puppet master (God), who was in sovereign control of all that was happening. This understanding is in complete agreement with other scriptures, such as Acts 4:28, speaking of Christ's crucifixion, as something a sovereign God chose "For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done (Acts 4:28)." Again, this understanding is not for the faint of heart. We are not even so complicated as to be puppets actually, mere clay really, as Jeremiah 18:6 says, "O house of Israel, cannot I do with you as this potter? saith the LORD. Behold, as the clay is in the potter's hand, so are ye in mine hand, O house of Israel." We are mere clay in the potter's hand to be molded to do as He wishes, but the puppet analogy is valid too I think. And if Pinocchio (ie symbol of humans) kills a man, and the person says with his dying breath, "I forgive you Pinocchio", obviously the man is really forgiving Pinocchio's handler too (God). So I accept Jesus said God was guilty of sin by sovereignly crucifying Christ, but it was necessary to save all sentient creation, and Jesus forgave God, and so do I forgive God for any evil He has done to me, or caused me to do to others. I still say God is perfect, because He promises He will save all sentient creation (all evil humans and all evil angels) one day in the lake of fire judgment process after death. Saving all is my definition of perfect, and God's definition too, as this is what God desires and is in process of doing. God simply sins perfectly, while not being a sinner in heart, in that even His sins are for our ultimate good and contribute to the salvation of all. Those who desire that salvation now and complete it, are the elect of God, true spiritual Israel, aka the Bride of Christ, who experience God's fiery redemptive process now, by God's sovereign design, and give God credit for all things good and evil, and even give God credit for His ingenious plan to use the illusion of life and the illusion of free will to accomplish this plan. I say the illusion of life because Jesus likened all living humans as really dead when He "said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God (Luke 9:60)." We are really spiritually dead until we are fully alive in the spirit, worshiping and obeying God in our hearts and actions, as Jesus did, even when that obedience is painful, as it was for Jesus, acknowledging that God sins against us, while not being a sinner Himself. If we understand all the issues of life and the heart, and can still love God by striving to obey Him motivated in our hearts with love, gratitude, and appreciation for His great and wonderful albeit sometimes confusing love, then God considers we are honoring God with our lives as much as Christ did!
"Do you not know? Have you not heard? The Lord is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He will not grow tired or weary, and his understanding no one can fathom." (Isaiah 40:28, NIV) I know my thinking can seem a bit confusing, but this verse confirms no one can fathom the Lord's mind, so this is further proof He talks to me, helps me fathom His mind, as this verse simply means no one can do so on their own. I have the mind of Christ, and a God who can create this mind boggling complex universe, and ultimately bend all wills to lovingly serve Him in the end is a bit confusing to humans. Of course, a God who understands all things plainly acknowledges our confusion in Isaiah 55:8 when He says, "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts." Another verse simply saying the Lord's thoughts and ways are too high for humans to understand on their own. I understand much, but learn more all the time, with His help. I am not the only elect who came to understand these things in history, as every author of the Bible came to understand they were elect, and the significant characters (ie elect) in the Bible also came to understand they were elect and their stories would inspire, and all of them came to understand these secrets I write on this site. "The secret things belong unto the LORD our God." (Deuteronomy 29:29) And the Lord reveals these secrets to who He will, as He has to me and perhaps is doing so with you right now. The Bible writers wrote in code though, as that was their mission to both preserve the written Word of God, but also conceal the truth in Bible code speak as God directed, to be openly proclaimed in these last days. Technically, humanity has been in the last days since the time of the apostles, but believe me when I say we are in the very last of the last days. "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." (Proverbs 25:2) This verse speaks of the Kings and Priests that we true elect are, and God at first supernaturally conceals truth and it is both an honour and a struggle for the elect to search all things out in time, and share as lead and able. My thoughts may seem deep, but no more deep than any elect in history who learned to hear the Lord's thoughts on these matters, as it is He alone who is deep. "O Lord, how great are thy works! and thy thoughts are very deep. A brutish man knoweth not; neither doth a fool understand this." (Psalm 92:5) This verse confirms the Lord's thoughts are deep, not mine, and He is able to bring mere humans like me to understand, who are brutish and ignorant and fools at first, until God supernaturally empowers and matures that one to become elect. Please think deeply about all I write, and pray and ask God to reveal to you what the truth is. We all face fiery trials and difficulties and struggles in life. We all cry out like Job for understanding, as the book of Job is dedicated entirely to the issue of man (represented by Job) suffering supernatural attack from Satan, at a sovereign God's control. Why would God allow all this? Now you know what Job, as one of God's Old Testament elect, was eventually privileged to know, the big picture, but not allowed to plainly say, as we can today. Will you contend with God, as Job initially did, and judge your Creator for how He chooses to humble and save all? Job 40:8 God says to Job, "Wilt thou also disannul my judgment? Wilt thou condemn me, that thou mayest be righteous?" Now you know why, we all face judgment from birth, and why not even a 5 year old who dies of leukemia is innocent, but will be saved ultimately anyway, in the lake of fire. Perhaps that child's death is the very fiery trial God will use to cause one or both parents to be in the first resurrection! God let's us know that life is a judgment process He takes us through, and we condemn God for how He humbles and saves all. In our puny brain, we initially condemn God, as Job did, that we may be more righteous than God, for only a one who believes their ways are more righteous than God dares to condemn God's way. That is shaky ground my readers. At the end of the book of Job, the Bible says beginning at chapter 42 (NIV):
"Then Job replied to the Lord: 'I know that you can do all things; no purpose of yours can be thwarted (God will save all creation His way whether you understand and like it or agree with His ways or not).
You asked, "Who is this that obscures my plans without knowledge?" (We all cry out to God and initially condemn God, as Job did, and since we all must live by every word of God, all will live the book of Job in their own way)
Surely I spoke of things I did not understand, things too wonderful for me to know (this verse will always be true of created beings, as we will always not understand God fully and His ways are too wonderful to fully know, but now you know the big picture and major doctrines of spiritual truth--time to stop judging God, no?).
You said, "Listen now, and I will speak; I will question you, and you shall answer me." (God will demand answers you cannot answer if you need more humbling)
My ears had heard of you but now my eyes have seen you (we get a deeper revelation of God when our Job experience comes upon us).
Therefore I despise myself and repent in dust and ashes" (the end result is the same for us all, as we eventually repent of judging our Creator, the main point behind the book of Job, that we need to trust God and believe and not condemn God or judge Him for His ways, for He is good and has the best in mind for all in the end).
I know in particular this page is impossible to believe without God's supernatural enabling. I suggest not to speak to other Christians or especially lying Christian leaders who mostly just think of themselves and making money off you, but rather ask God alone to speak to you, though this can be hard when we are spiritual babes and easily deceived by the devil. We want another human to tell us truth, or lead us, rather than the Holy Spirit. But agreement in lies with a false leader is not very good, and their truth is no truth at all. All you need is God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. Do I ask for money to support this, my ministry site? No, Jesus said freely you have received, freely give. I do so. I do not charge to give truth to anybody. Jesus overturned the money lenders tables in the temple in anger at how He feels about people trying to make money off spiritual truth. Jesus did not charge for His miracles and preaching and neither do I.
Do you think life has been easy for me either to have come to these conclusions? Which is better, a God who tortures in literal fire for no redemptive or good purpose or good end result, or a God who tortures in the symbolic fiery trials of this life of hell, for a perfect end result eventually for all, either in this life or the next. Think about it! I am not unbalanced, I can assure you, for I know life is also heaven, but it is also hell. God asks us all to endure a little heaven and hell until the job is done, as we contribute in our own ways to God's end goal with mature understanding. That is why Christ said, those who endure to the end will be saved (Matthew 24:13). We must trust God and learn endurance for it may take thousands of years yet or more, as we understand time, to work with God to His good end, enduring the knowledge of good and evil. In the end, when all creation is saved and reconciled, we will appreciate God more, and be very glad to let God retain knowledge of both good and evil, and the rest of us just exist with the knowledge of good. We will still have all our memories, but no more negative emotions or experiences to endure. Until then, we grapple to "walk by faith and not by sight" (2 Corinthians 5:7).
I hope my readers can understand a little better now why the below image is a joke to God's human elect, but truly how the vast majority will always view this deep mysterious, passionate, universal salvation by "fire", until they experience it personally.
A final word to my readers. If you have read everything so far, you are probably either thinking I am crazy, or I have deep insight you have never considered before. You may wonder how I know these things. Well it is very simple. "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him (John 14:21)." As one of the elect, the Bride of Christ, my spiritual husband Christ has manifested Himself to me as He promised. How you may ask? Well for example, I have had supernatural encounters with angels who took on human form and revealed themselves to me as not being really human by doing supernatural things. I have had many other supernatural encounters, and have learned the hard way how to tune my 5 spiritual senses to be able to detect Jesus' manifestations to me. He has trained me. Primarily now, I experience Jesus' manifestations in similar fashion as to how we process the natural world with our 5 physical senses, except it is spiritual in nature. I see, hear, smell, taste, and touch Jesus all around me everyday in many ways, "for in him we live, and move, and have our being (Acts 17:28)". I have no control over who Jesus chooses to manifest Himself to. I only know if you are destined to be elect, one of the Bride of Christ, then He will eventually manifest to you as well, sooner or later, while still in this body of flesh. It can be quite shocking and unsettling at first, but eventually you will calm down, and nobody, especially the devil, will be able to shake your confidence anymore. My favorite spiritual sense is the sense of hearing, as I hear the voice of the good Shepherd and follow Him. We talk all day long about a great many wonderful things, but of course it is personal things. I do not reveal all I know. I think I have revealed enough here to make most people hate me enough. :-)
Oh alright, I will reveal one more thing to increase people's hatred of me. One thing I am is very honest about spiritual things. I do not lie about spiritual things. But I am human, so I can be mistaken. I only lie about spiritual things in the sense I am only human and technically must admit I could be wrong about everything I have written (though I am not). So think for yourself and decide for yourself. I started off the website admitting I don't hear any literal voice of God in the form of a disembodied voice, but I write confidently in all I write because I have deep convictions. That is all I can say at this point. Other spiritual leaders lie and say they hear the audible voice of God, deceiving gullible and naive people who may believe they hear some special and literal voice like a human speaking. Again, I do not lie about spiritual things. I have never heard God speak to me that way, but I most certainly do hear Christ speak to me. "It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God (Matthew 4:4)." I "sense" Christ tell me that living by every word of God includes having a literal voice experience because the Bible talks about this, what doctors would call schizophrenia. Sound impossible? Then you don't believe your Bible, which records many people had literal voice experiences, and since the true elect (which I am one) must live by every word of God while flesh and blood, I will experience this sooner or later. One good example is when God spoke in a literal voice to the prophet Samuel in:
1 Samuel 3:1-19:
1 The boy Samuel ministered before the Lord under Eli. In those days the word of the Lord was rare; there were not many visions.
2 One night Eli, whose eyes were becoming so weak that he could barely see, was lying down in his usual place. 3 The lamp of God had not yet gone out, and Samuel was lying down in the house of the Lord, where the ark of God was. Then the Lord called Samuel.
4 Samuel answered, "Here I am." And he ran to Eli and said, "Here I am; you called me."
5 But Eli said, "I did not call; go back and lie down." So he went and lay down.
6 Again the Lord called, "Samuel!" And Samuel got up and went to Eli and said, "Here I am; you called me."
7 "My son," Eli said, "I did not call; go back and lie down."
8 Now Samuel did not yet know the Lord: The word of the Lord had not yet been revealed to him.
9 A third time the Lord called, "Samuel!" And Samuel got up and went to Eli and said, "Here I am; you called me."
10 Then Eli realized that the Lord was calling the boy. So Eli told Samuel, "Go and lie down, and if he calls you, say, 'Speak, Lord, for your servant is listening.'" So Samuel went and lay down in his place.
11 The Lord came and stood there, calling as at the other times, "Samuel! Samuel!"
12 Then Samuel said, "Speak, for your servant is listening."
13 And the Lord said to Samuel: "See, I am about to do something in Israel that will make the ears of everyone who hears about it tingle. At that time I will carry out against Eli everything I spoke against his family from beginning to end. 14 For I told him that I would judge his family forever because of the sin he knew about; his sons blasphemed God, and he failed to restrain them. Therefore I swore to the house of Eli, "The guilt of Eli's house will never be atoned for by sacrifice or offering."
15 Samuel lay down until morning and then opened the doors of the house of the Lord. He was afraid to tell Eli the vision, but Eli called him and said, "Samuel, my son."
16 Samuel answered, "Here I am."
17 "What was it he said to you?" Eli asked. "Do not hide it from me. May God deal with you, be it ever so severely, if you hide from me anything he told you." So Samuel told him everything, hiding nothing from him. Then Eli said, "He is the Lord; let him do what is good in his eyes."
18 The Lord was with Samuel as he grew up, and he let none of Samuel's words fall to the ground. And all Israel from Dan to Beersheba recognized that Samuel was attested as a prophet of the Lord. 19 The Lord continued to appear at Shiloh, and there he revealed himself to Samuel through his word.
So here Samuel had a literal voice experience and in fact all the old testament prophets had literal voice experiences. That is why they could make clear predictions that always came true! No vague sense of Jesus speaking to your heart. Clear and literal audible voice! Jesus tells me the true elect have this experience sooner or later. There are many more examples of this, but the most famous is probably the first time God talked to Moses out of the burning bush (Exodus 3), but Moses often heard the literal voice of God as "the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend (Exodus 33:11)." But some might say, that is old testament. God does not speak that clearly in the new testament. Wrong again. At Jesus' baptism, "a voice from heaven said, 'This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased (Matthew 3:17).'" At a later point Jesus says, "Father, glorify thy name." Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, "I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again (John 12:28)." I can already hear the objections that Jesus was a special exception and nowhere in the new testament does it say God spoke in clear literal voice since Christ rose from the dead. Wrong again. During the apostle Paul's road to Damascus experience "he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, 'Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?' And he said, 'Who art thou, Lord?' And the Lord said, 'I am Jesus whom thou persecutest (Acts 9:4-5).'" So Saul who became Paul heard the literal voice of God. All true elect hear the literal voice of God at some point. Paul later would write in his letters confidently that what he wrote was a command of the Lord, because he continued to talk with Jesus and receive revelation in a literal voice experience. Peter heard the literal voice of Jesus too, as he says in 2 Peter 1:14, "Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle (ie die), even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me (by telling him in literal voice)." But both Paul and Peter just spoke confidently, as I do, though they were hearing a literal voice. God doesn't want mature Christians going around announcing they are hearing a literal voice as people will not believe anyway and just accuse you of being schizophrenic. I have not had this literal voice experience yet,(or perhaps I have but am lying, hahaha, you decide) but will one day, as I sense Jesus tell me this. Then perhaps I will speak even more mysteries with even more boldness and confidence and if anyone asks me if I hear a literal voice, I will simply say, no comment. :-) I will say this because I have too much integrity to lie about such a thing, but I also will not want to admit it, since people will not believe anyway.
"A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies." (Proverbs 14:5) This verse, like all in the Bible, is coded and can only be understood through the lens of maturity, experience, and Holy Spirit. Everybody lies outwardly sometimes. Heart attitudes are all that matters, and hear Christ personally, and believe what He tells you, and strive for loving motivations at least, even if you feel you must lie for loving reasons. This verse means a faithful witness will not lie to himself or God, but be honest inwardly, commune with God there, but an inward false witness is prone to the devil's deceptions and utters lies to himself and God, like God is an eternal torturer monster in literal fire forever. Remember God killed Ananias and Sapphira (Acts 5), who lied to the Holy Spirit, to demonstrate how important it is to God for His Rachel elect to become honest inwardly with themselves and God, which comes with spiritual maturity. Outwardly, there is such a thing as telling lies, or doing any other evil, with loving motivations. Outwardly, I can do any sin I want, just like everybody, even lie if it suits my purposes, or lie if God asks me too. I will let you ponder that and discuss more in other pages. I will only add that God tells me some of these preachers on TV, who lie in support of trinity, free will, eternal torment, actually are Rachel elect and know everything on my site already! They make compromise and lie with loving motivations about these 3 key lies that Christians say you must believe or you are a cult, otherwise none will listen and then one cannot run a successful public ministry, and have some little chance to at least say some other truthful things to help people. God has made me one not interested in lying in Jesus' name to propagate some truth, but rather I continually seek greater truth all the time, and prefer to speak plainly. But I am not above lying if God asks me to, and also explains the good reasons, as God always has good reasons for all He does or asks us to do. However, as we approach the very last days of these last days, I sense Jesus tell me many crazy supernatural things will start happening, making such compromises a thing of the past for Rachel elect. Nothing would give me greater pleasure than to announce to the world I am hearing the literal voice of Jesus, in clear fashion, as clear as a human voice. But of course I will only do this if the Lord allows me to and will back me up. Jesus could have me talk like an old testament prophet and make predictions about the future, for example the exact number the stock market will close on a certain day, when the next earthquake will strike with exact longitude and latitude and exact measurement of intensity on the richter scale etc....this would shut the mouths of most people who would claim I am a false prophet and give people something to think about. Amazingly, even in the face of such evidence, I know human nature well enough to know many will still accuse me of being a false prophet or receiving my knowledge by the devil. Some might even try to kill me. Ah well...ce la vie...there are worse ways to die than serving the Lord.... :-)
One last thing to say about the end-time Rachel elect. All 12 spiritual sons of Jacob have always been lost to the world, as the Bible must be spiritually discerned by Holy Spirit, and the Bible refers to spiritual Israel, to which physical Israel has always been only a mere symbol.
To the Canaanite woman Jesus said, "But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." (Mathew 15:24) Jesus knew the true sheep were lost and scattered elect that God was dealing with by Holy Spirit all over the world. Physical Israel was never truly God's elect, but elect come to understand symbolism and live their lives accordingly, as parable characters, as God directs. Jesus initially ignored the Canaanite woman, as she symbolized non-elect, and claimed His mission was only for the lost sheep of Israel, which physical Israel symbolized. So He never left physical Israel and finished His mission there.
But really, here is true Israel. "But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God." (Romans 2:29) Inward spiritual Israel is all that counts, and outwards physical pedigree means nothing to God. If your heart is spiritually circumcised or at least in process, you should hear Holy Spirit in the following.
Genesis 49 has long passages about Jacob (aka Israel) blessing his 12 physical sons before he died. Jacob learned to hear Holy Spirit as I do, and related prophecy about his sons and what would befall them in the end-times. Jacob knew he was writing stuff that would be recorded in Bible for Christ and other elect and he also knew his words would eventually make sense, by Holy Spirit, to other spirit filled end-time spiritual sons of Jacob like me. Like all elect, Jacob came to understand his words were primarily spirit and not meant to be taken literally as pertaining only to his physical sons. We are in the literal end-times outwardly for the world, but apostle Paul also lived the end-times inwardly in his life. We all do until the day we physically die. Paul had much to say about the more literal worldwide end-times we are in, and the outward UFO phenomenon and how it portends open contact with demons pretending to be ancient alien-gods. I have revealed much about it on this site. So, Paul lived his individual end-times and did his part, and now all elect are being gathered in the spirit worldwide in a special way and the outward literal end-times are fast approaching. Literal open contact only starts the outwards showdown for a confused world.
But back to Jacob's prophecy, and his many prophetic and poetic words to describe the mindsets within all the spiritual sons of Jacob, that are within the hearts of all elect throughout time, wherever and whenever they ended their lives, always seen by God but not always recognized by the world. Everybody lives their own inward end-times but the literal return of Christ is soon and the more literal outward end-times' last leg is approaching. Open contact starts it. When the outwards showdown starts, Jacob's prophetic words in Genesis 49 apply to ALL physical elect who will be manifesting at that time. The words in Genesis 49 apply to all elect, and all elect have some of each of these end-time qualities, but each elect will find themselves relating more to Jacob's prophetic words to one of the spiritual children of Jacob versus the others.
Jesus is called the lion of the tribe of Judah, and Jesus had all qualities too, but these Genesis 49 words about Judah resonated with Christ more than the prophetic words about the other sons of Jacob:
Genesis 49:8, NIV, starts, and I will only comment briefly in black brackets how they applied to Jesus:
Judah (Jesus), your brothers will praise you
(all we Rachel elect do)
your hand will be on the neck of your enemies
(He defeated all demonic powers)
your father's sons will bow down to you
(all the rest of Father God's sons bow to Him).
9 You are a lion's cub, Judah
(ie lion of the tribe of Judah)
you return from the prey, my son.
Like a lion he crouches and lies down,
like a lioness--who dares to rouse him?
10 The scepter will not depart from Judah
(scepter, Kingly rule as outward millennium is soon, with Christ at the helm)
nor the ruler's staff from between his feet
until he to whom it belongs shall come
(Christ will openly display for the world soon)
and the obedience of the nations shall be his
(rule with rod of iron a thousand years)
11 He will tether his donkey to a vine
his colt to the choicest branch
he will wash his garments in wine
his robes in the blood of grapes
(Revelation 19:15 he treadeth the winepress [grapes] of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God)
12 His eyes will be darker than wine
his teeth whiter than milk.
Those above words about Judah apply to me too and they resonate with me, but I more relate to Jacob's words to Simeon and Levi which start at Genesis 49:5:
5 Simeon and Levi are brothers
(like Revelation 11:1 the two witnesses are brothers like Simeon and Levi--violent and angry warriors as the rest of the verses show)
their swords are weapons of violence
(the sword of the spirit, aka spiritual warfare words against the world but the witnesses of Revelation 11 will have some massive supernatural powers at this time as well)
6 Let me not enter their council
(as in we let no human enter our council on spiritual matters but God only [most are not interested anyway], and discern spirits speaking to us, light and dark angels, Christ personally, other Rachel elect in the spirit like the apostles, who tell us what their words in the Bible really mean)
let me not join their assembly
(as in we let no humans join our spiritual assembly [most don't want to be a part of our spiritual assembly anyway--composed of Father, Son, other physically dead elect, light and dark angels], and we refuse to participate in corrupt physical churches but speak against them all...we don't choose who is already in the spiritual assembly but we can tell who is legit)
for they have killed men in their anger
(Jesus said to hate is the same as murder and we "Simeon" and "Levi" types have murdered many people in this sense, and angels too, other elect, and even God Himself--good thing is they can take it even though we are not always "nice")
and hamstrung oxen as they pleased
(similar to 1 Corinthians 9:9 about not muzzling an ox, meaning pay your spiritual leaders well, but we don't respect or support religious leaders financially, or churches, but are angry at their lies and corruptions)
7 Cursed be their anger, so fierce,
and their fury, so cruel!
(our anger, and fury, breeds much negative emotion [within and without] but this tendency [and ability to handle] will also be necessary and needful in open spiritual warfare with manifesting demons--but people don't tend to like us very much in the flesh)
I will scatter them in Jacob
and disperse them in Israel.
(Jacob, aka Israel [God changed Jacob's name to Israel] is also the world as a whole, as physical Israel is no more God's chosen people than any other nation...so scattering and dispersing in Jacob/Israel refers to us "Simeon" and "Levi" elect feeling very scattered and alone in this world, as we have very few friends and typically very little, if any, spiritual support--people just don't understand us very well, even other Rachel elect. But in outwards manifesting spiritual warfare with visibly manifesting demons pretending to be ancient alien-gods, you need NOT understand us. Just get behind us for protection. We know how to deal with demonic fuck trash for you. You may not appreciate us now, but probably will a little more then)
I resonate with these words below as well.